No, No, Absolutely Not - That is Not How "We" Made the Biggest and Most Expensive Military Mistake Ever
Full-on politics here, for the first time in a good long while. Please share aggressively.
The topic: the amusing pratfalls Jeb Bush has experienced in the last week, struggling to answer unusually direct questions offered up by actual mainstream media, if you can imagine. Jeb's (that a loser-name if I ever heard one, almost like Clem) handlers and the Prince Himself had to know that questions like this were on the way. But maybe they hoped it would be only from nasty, snotty, long-haired hippy bloggers in a venue that would not get much attention. Hence no need to actually prepare. Just work on the wardrobe and schedule that manicure.
Jeb's equivocating has had the excellent effect of getting every egomaniac with even a hexa-flake's chance of being a candidate to admit that with what we know now, they would not have invaded Iraq. I.e., it was the mistake all of us here know it to have been in spades, and most of us suspected it to be before it started.
Unfortunately, the MSM, in classic fashion, have failed to detect and correct the false narrative in this dialogue. Most of the exchanges with the Egos have involved wording like "flawed intelligence" as the basis for our "mistaken" path.
I suspect near-on everyone here knows better. What troubles me is that we now know (a phrase familiar from those Jeb/Clem queries) that our marvelous country includes an amazing number of plain olde folks who count on Rush, Glenn, and their multitude of vile compadres to tell them what to do instead of actually actuating their own gray matter.
There are probably few of them that any of us can help find a way to accept truth and reality. But in the meantime we need to gather around and refute this nonsense that it was an "intelligence failure."
That is a total crock. This absolutely false construct cannot be allowed to persist.
Many of us suspected at the time, and have been solidly corroborated to the effect that GWB needed to get a war on. That's how you become a famous president! Not that his assemblage of ghouls were lacking in influence in this cause. They could gain further fame in the Annals of Governmental War-Crimes, too, something that at least the tiny (but persistent!) dick had always aspired to, probably envious of Kissinger's honorary brownshirt membership.
Waldman, weighing in at American Prospect is one excellent corrective:
Josh at Talking Points Memo is of a similar mind:
And more at TPM:
Lots more of course at the links, but I guess you get the idea - which you fully had way back when!! These are war criminals. They made all sorts of shit up because G needed to be a war president as that is the way to secure your reputation and perhaps even more to prove to Daddy that he had moved on from his long history of criminal and addictive misbehavior - oops-a-daisy!!
Please UN and EU come for them! ASAP
The topic: the amusing pratfalls Jeb Bush has experienced in the last week, struggling to answer unusually direct questions offered up by actual mainstream media, if you can imagine. Jeb's (that a loser-name if I ever heard one, almost like Clem) handlers and the Prince Himself had to know that questions like this were on the way. But maybe they hoped it would be only from nasty, snotty, long-haired hippy bloggers in a venue that would not get much attention. Hence no need to actually prepare. Just work on the wardrobe and schedule that manicure.
Jeb's equivocating has had the excellent effect of getting every egomaniac with even a hexa-flake's chance of being a candidate to admit that with what we know now, they would not have invaded Iraq. I.e., it was the mistake all of us here know it to have been in spades, and most of us suspected it to be before it started.
Unfortunately, the MSM, in classic fashion, have failed to detect and correct the false narrative in this dialogue. Most of the exchanges with the Egos have involved wording like "flawed intelligence" as the basis for our "mistaken" path.
I suspect near-on everyone here knows better. What troubles me is that we now know (a phrase familiar from those Jeb/Clem queries) that our marvelous country includes an amazing number of plain olde folks who count on Rush, Glenn, and their multitude of vile compadres to tell them what to do instead of actually actuating their own gray matter.
There are probably few of them that any of us can help find a way to accept truth and reality. But in the meantime we need to gather around and refute this nonsense that it was an "intelligence failure."
That is a total crock. This absolutely false construct cannot be allowed to persist.
Many of us suspected at the time, and have been solidly corroborated to the effect that GWB needed to get a war on. That's how you become a famous president! Not that his assemblage of ghouls were lacking in influence in this cause. They could gain further fame in the Annals of Governmental War-Crimes, too, something that at least the tiny (but persistent!) dick had always aspired to, probably envious of Kissinger's honorary brownshirt membership.
Waldman, weighing in at American Prospect is one excellent corrective:
So it isn't correct to say "the intelligence" about Iraq was wrong, even if there were specific bits of information that turned out to be false. The truth is that the Bush administration hyped every bit of intelligence it could find that could be presented as proving that Iraq presented a dire threat, while downplaying any information or conclusion that pointed in the other direction.
Josh at Talking Points Memo is of a similar mind:
As the GOP has quickly settled into a new consensus that the decision to invade Iraq was - at least in retrospect - a mistake, it has come with a willful amnesia bordering on a whole new generation of deceit about exactly what happened in the lead up to the invasion of Iraq in March 2003. To hear Republican presidential candidates tell it, Americans believed Saddam Hussein had a stockpile of Weapons of Mass Destruction which justified and necessitated the invasion. Since he didn't, there was no reason to invade. The carnage and collateral effects we've seen over the last dozen years only drives home the point: knowing what we know now, the invasion was a mistake. We wouldn't do it again.
And more at TPM:
In this sense, chaos wasn't a problem. It was actually the goal. They just ended up getting a very different kind of chaos from what they expected - not a wave of destabilization pushing out from Iraq and crashing over enemy states in Iran, Syria and even Saudi Arabia but one crashing in on the architects and the US and its military itself. I explored the idea in some depth in this 2003 article in The Washington Monthly, 'Practice to Deceive'.
Lots more of course at the links, but I guess you get the idea - which you fully had way back when!! These are war criminals. They made all sorts of shit up because G needed to be a war president as that is the way to secure your reputation and perhaps even more to prove to Daddy that he had moved on from his long history of criminal and addictive misbehavior - oops-a-daisy!!
Please UN and EU come for them! ASAP
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